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the oldest and strongest human emotion

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is fear the oldest and strongest type of

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fear the trepidation of young when we

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were children our parents told us that

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monsters didn't exist but we were sure

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that something is lurking under the bed

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or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of your king my

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name is lon stripper join me as I

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examine unexplained creatures strange

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manifestations and remarkable realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands seeking not

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from new territory but for new knowledge

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of the supernatural come on board as we

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begin this adventure together

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore the unexplained here on the

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paranormal king radio network

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I'm your host lon Stricker coming to you

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with an a cannon shot of historic

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Gettysburg Pennsylvania thank you for

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joining me now tonight I welcome a few

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members the fans of monsters fortune

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research team will have we have Butch

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Witkowski Amy Bill and Daniel Claire

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with this and this will be an update on

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some on game cases and research and

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other things and kind of introduced a

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few people I try to get some new people

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and every time we do this we've got all

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my god I don't how many people got in

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the group now maybe close to 20 kind of

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spread around the country a little more

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so you know when we get people to come

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on and people who we know that can do

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the job then we go ahead and put them on

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the team so it's been working out pretty

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good so far so if you have questions you

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know you go the chat and post and we'll

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go from there so I'd like to introduce

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you to Daniel or Claire Daniel once you

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tell us a little bit about yourself and

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tell us a bit about what you're doing

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hello it's nice to meet everyone and

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it's an honor to be on your team lon and

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it's it's great to be here tonight just

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wanted to give you a little bit of a

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background on myself I have grown up in

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the northwest corner of Connecticut and

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I grew up with a lot of forest around me

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I grew up on 65 acres and very lucky to

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have a family farm where I did a lot of

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horseback riding in nature and forest

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time in the forest and I went to school

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for forensics criminal justice zoology

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and I that was my focus in my field for

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criminal justice and my intent was to

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become a park ranger and work in the

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so as I grew up and opportunities

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presented themselves I started to kind

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of focus on nature and investigating

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kind of strange things and I branched

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out into looking into more paranormal

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and I went to a lot of Ed and Lorraine

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that's where they that's where they

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focused their most of their

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presentations I was into paranormal

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investigations and the cemeteries and I

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would do a lot of photography EVP work

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and the cemeteries got a lot of strange

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very very strange paranormal things and

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the cemeteries currently right now I am

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a member of your phantoms and monsters

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research team and I'm very grateful for

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that and I'm also a member of the is RT

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independent Sasquatch research team

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since 2017 and we get out into the field

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and we do a lot of our own independent

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research and we also do our own our own

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group investigations which are a lot of

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fun really interesting I've had some

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very very interesting encounters my

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first encounter was in Stara actually I

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grew up in Overton in northwest corner

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southeast corner or southwest sorry

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southwest corner of Florida one night

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with my first experience which really

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kind of launched me into investigating

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skunk Apes down here I had my experience

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in about 10:30 at night in August of

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2006 I was walking my dogs and I came

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across a very very strange odor of skunk

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and I thought I had never seen skunks

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before or since in Florida I don't I I

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just don't ever encounter them and this

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was a very strong skunk smell that

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turned into a very strong fish smell and

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then right after that it turned into

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what smelled like monkey face

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these eight pcs so I thought to myself

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what could be out here at night at 10:30

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at night on a hot August night in a

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sterile Florida that would smell like a

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skunk that's eating raw fish and smelled

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like monkey feces eight pcs it was very

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very strange encounter

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so from there I contacted the BFRO I

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spoke to Matt moneymaker and that kind

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of launched me into kind of checking out

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skunk ape things down here in Florida

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and I looked around to join groups and

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investigations and that's kind of what

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launched me into all of this very good

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somebody down in the Florida area and of

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course you did release one investigation

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of course recently which turned out to

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be a fairly interesting investigation so

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hopefully we're gonna have more coming

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your way as soon as everything's lifted

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where everybody can get out of house and

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do something but you know hopefully we

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can do that yeah I had bent a monkey

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jungle which was a very very interesting

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place a few years before that and that's

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how I knew what the smell of monkey

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feces was like it's it's a very very

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unique place there's no other smell like

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a promo Keef eces it's really strong

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there when you walk there monkey jungle

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you smell them very close they're

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running all around you and you are on

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the trails and they're just they're

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everywhere all around you so it's a

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great place to go to do a little bit of

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research and checking the monkeys and

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the Apes out I would highly recommend

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that if you're down here and it's it's

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like a sulfur and skunk smell mixed

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feces smell so that kind of really

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really launched me into my investigating

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and you know interested everything but

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1970s in 1960s with the patterson-gimlin

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film of course it launched a lot of

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people into being really interested in

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the field well we are very pleased to

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have you with us and

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I know for a fact that you will do a lot

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of good work for us and you know we've

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we've all been talking back and forth

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now for a couple of months at least so

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like I said before as soon as we can get

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Amy why don't you tell us tell us a bit

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about you I know you've been on the show

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once before but kind of give us a brief

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overview sure um first I want to thank

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Danielle because she's really the reason

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you and I started talking to each other

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you know she was like you need to talk

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to law online you need to talk to Amy so

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thanks Danielle about myself I am I call

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myself a Bigfoot enthusiast you know I I

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read about I look into these reports I

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spend a whole lot of time looking into

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Bigfoot I used to be Daniel talked about

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the BFRO I used to be an investigator

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for them but I like to say I kind of

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graduated out of that my own into my own

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that's out in Washington State and I'm

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kind of starting some new things up out

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this way with them I am a co-founder of

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project Zoo book which is what I'm most

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excited about well one is I'm excited

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about a lot of things but one of the

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things I'm most excited about it's a

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group kind of under the radar we don't

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have a lot of presents out on you know

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in Big Foot groups or anything like that

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we're just doing our own thing but it

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consists of several Bigfoot researchers

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alongside of scientists and we have

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several zoologists primatologists a

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marine biologist a regular biologist

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anthropologists a lot of ologists that

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Bigfoot as a possible primate and I

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that I don't know if that's what Bigfoot

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maybe experiences nothing no smoking gun

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where I can 100% say that what I

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experienced was Bigfoot but I believe

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all right think so and I'm just curious

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I fascinated by the science that is

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going on and a lot of people don't know

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that there's a lot of science going on

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for this creature but I know a lot of

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people who have other experiences that

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don't quite sound like the natural

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animal so I I feel like you should go

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where the evidence leads you and if it

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goes you know an offshoot somewhere else

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then I'm okay with that but um

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my interest is looking at it as a

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possible primate I also have my own

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little thing child able in bucket-list

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expeditions where I do things for Girl

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Scouts and Boy Scouts and a lot of stuff

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teacher this year and maybe I'm not sure

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if I'm gonna be going back next year or

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bunch of changes in Ohio with licensures

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through all that but I am a teacher and

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you know I tell my kids about Bigfoot

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and you know try to get them to look

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into the evidence and see for themselves

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that so I do that as well I am I am an

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OTB n which is Ohio certified volunteer

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naturalist because once I started

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getting into Bigfoot and going out into

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the forests across the country I really

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felt like I should be a little bit

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better prepared so I took classes

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through the Ohio State University to

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learn more about the flora and fauna of

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Ohio specifically but it trans

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ladies into other states as well I also

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take bushcraft classes with the Midwest

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native skills Institute and I take my

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teaching kind of on the road these days

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things have been canceled but myself and

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some of my research partners we've been

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doing a lot of outdoor shows like

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hunting and fishing shows until the

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virus hit where we are getting a whole

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lot of encountered stories from hunters

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and fishermen and I you know the first

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one I did I wasn't sure really how it

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was gonna go if I was gonna get tomatoes

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thrown at me or something but how many

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people have come up to us and told us

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their stories it's been great

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one more thing I'm doing is I since

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today was my last day of school I am

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gonna be focusing as I look for another

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job I'm gonna be focusing on finishing

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up my book that I'm writing on Tom page

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who a lot of people in the Bigfoot

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community have not heard of but he was a

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financial backer for Roger Patterson and

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Peter Byrne in the late 60s before Roger

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died and he as a gentleman he passed

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away this year but I spent a couple of

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years moving up with him and getting his

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stories and with his blessing and that

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of his family putting it into a book so

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there you go that sounds very

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interesting you know you talked about

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fishermen and hunters and I tell ya I

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used to get in the springtime with trout

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season will blow up here in Pennsylvania

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I I would I would always expect to start

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getting a few Bigfoot reports because it

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always happened I mean somebody would

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say I was out today first day of trout

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season and I saw this and that and it

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did happen a lot so yeah you know they

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are a good source and definitely are

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they really are I was crawling around

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like taping the carpet down for my booth

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and I looked up like this

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the night before it all started and

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there were like five guys standing there

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waiting to tell me their stories that

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were expecting yeah yeah they are a good

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source so my old war horse which would

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Kowski and everybody knows what you mean

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I've been together for my god I guess

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least five years and I don't know how

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long's been butch seems like forever and

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I got a butch involved all this cryptid

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stuff now he's uh he's blaming me for

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him but uh what's been going on with you

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butch I know you're ready to get out

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there and and to look into at least one

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of these cases we've been we've been

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kind of talking about but what's going

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on well we got of course women since

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this virus thing started right before

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that I mean we were gearing up to hit

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the you know the caves and a couple

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abandoned towns here in Pennsylvania

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where we had bipedal canine sightings

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and you know just scout around there and

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see if we can come up with anything and

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then of course we wanted to get back to

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Clearfield because that's where we had

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our very first two cases and they still

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have some issues going on up there the

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case that's of interest now is since I

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moved from Lancaster to Berks County now

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I'm closer to French Creek State Park

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which is where we go test our equipment

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during the early spring make sure

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everything works and we got a case down

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there

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well I guess they're describing it as a

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rake but not really so no that's why we

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don't know whether all things are yeah

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well you know rape was originally

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folklore from England and it was

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basically put out to keep little kids in

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line you know you know go to bed early

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yeah you don't go to bed early you don't

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need all your peace the rate will take

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you

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so then a movie came out in 2003 it

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didn't really catch on much and then

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2018 I believe was a second movie and it

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was off and running so people are seeing

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rigs everywhere but the one down in

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French Creek being that we go down there

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are a lot to test equipment stuff and

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it's a it's one of the darkest areas in

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Pennsylvania it's like the second

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darkest in Pennsylvania

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other than cherry Springs and so

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checking out night vision and thermal

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imaging and stuff is really good and we

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got to know all the Rangers and stuff

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down there but they're closed so I can't

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really get down and talk to anybody yet

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so as soon as they open I talked to the

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one sergeant and he said hey come on

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down you can talk to all the guys one

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time so I want to do that see if they

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have any reports of anything strange

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running around now there have been

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Bigfoot reports in the past but they go

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back into the late 50s mid 60s and then

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it just kind of dropped off I still do a

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lot of UFO I still do a lot of human

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mutation investigation but it's just so

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slowed down now because as far as you

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can't go anywhere so everything you're

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doing you're either you know I'm either

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going scouring through reports in the

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library or you know I'm on the internet

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trying to track something down or

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talking to other investigators so as

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soon as we can get out there I mean of

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course I got the farm up there in

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Lancaster County where you were at

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that's going on that's still going on so

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you know we have some of these cases

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that we can't even name what they are

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you know they're entities and I'm one of

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those guys that believes all this

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paranormal stuff is all connected you

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know mm-hmm and and it has to be is just

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it's just logical and you know we just

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have this thing about you know think

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critically and demand evidence all right

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yeah yeah you know we and you know we

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got a question here and chat about how

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we determine investigation needs to take

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place well

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basically I would say that a has to do

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with what would you know what do you

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description of what people are seeing or

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what they experienced it does seem that

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we do receive a lot of bizarre cases for

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whatever reason mm-hmm and you know the

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fact that we're getting these these tall

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white skinny humanoid type cases and we

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got one out in one of our other

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investigators is looking into one ality

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in Allegheny County we had you know had

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about two weeks ago that was sent to us

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so you know Pennsylvania has been

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getting more and more of these sightings

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I had Stan Gord on here a couple weeks

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ago he mentioned that he's been

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receiving similar type settings but this

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is this is a phenomena has been going on

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over the country in recent years but

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it's he does seem to be something that's

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more you know it be more prevalent

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Danielle have you heard of anything

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similar like that going on down your way

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I have not most of my focus has been in

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the Central Florida area near the Green

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Swamp wilderness preserve here where

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there's a lot of skunk ape sightings

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here and I created a DNA kit with my

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forensics background and criminal

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justice so I purchased things from the

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police forensics supply house oh yeah so

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I am prepared when I get a call or I

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need to do an investigation or I'm not

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hiking even I bring a DNA kit I'm always

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ready with that in my casting materials

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and no it's mostly mostly here skunk ape

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I really haven't heard much about about

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those at all here but yeah it seems like

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the only humanoid cases we have gotten

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done your way are those winged demons

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the gargoyle settings down in Pasco

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County that's a little further south of

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you I think

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yeah that's out to my West

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I didn't investigate that I did drive

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out there but I did not find anything

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any evidence or any thing that I saw

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yeah that's that's something that's been

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going on as well as around Marion County

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and around the State Forest cowl around

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there as well we've heard some reports

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in there so I don't know maybe I'll get

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really like that Ocala area that's next

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on my investigation list because there's

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a lot of wilderness up there to explore

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and a lot of hiking trails and a lot of

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strange stories looking forward to it

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I'm excited for the future so Amy have

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you heard of any of these humanoid

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sightings your way no really I did a

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little report if you want to call that

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for a paranormal Road podcast and most

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of the reports were actually you know

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Chicago it was more of the winged things

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like you're talking about you but I you

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know I am learning so much from you and

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your group because like I said I was

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really just into Bigfoot and then all

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the stories you guys talked about I'm

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like oh me I don't want to see those but

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no I I don't know of any right in my

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area okay and you're you're in

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Youngstown area around there so you do

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make your way over to Pennsylvania

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sometimes as well I sure do I'm making

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some plans right now actually after this

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I'm still um I have my maps open I

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internet a lot but I also like paper

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maps though okay we were talking before

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I I go out quite a bit to the Allegheny

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National Forest I grew up going to my

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grandpa's hunting cabin out there and so

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this summer since most of my other

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things have been canceled I'm planning

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on spending quite a bit of time there

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actually

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so butch have you been hearing anything

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else any other reports of coming your

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way have like some UFOs though

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well UFO sightings yeah we you know get

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a couple of those a week a lot of them

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right now seem to be north in New York

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area in New York State up in New York

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State and our friend Dave up in British

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Columbia he's gone out on a bipedal

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canine Trek on Sunday is there I sent

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him some he requested some footprint

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pictures and what he should be looking

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for track wise as I said I was out to

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him so I'm wishing him a lot of luck and

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hope he's safe the clothing up in his

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area up in his area walking down any

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trail and running into a bear the size

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of a Mack truck is issue I mean there I

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you know it keeps wanting me to come out

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there and I keep thinking then I don't

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want to be Sundy I don't want to be a

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Sunday brunch you know some stories as

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some of the so many counters he and his

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friend have had up there and yeah it's

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uh it's pretty very upper yeah well you

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know when you recent background research

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that area British Columbia

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I mean besides missing people by the

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hundreds they have you know many Bigfoot

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reports they have many reports of

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strange creatures running around

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especially in run lake areas around

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British Columbia and you know that

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there's logging trails to take you

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everywhere and usually they take you

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back into woods so far you know only you

510
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don't even see daylight anymore but

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beautiful reports are there about

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average right now they'll pick up when

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people can get outside again and start

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looking up we have had some really good

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clear skies so you know I check that all

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the time but that some strange reports

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that you know I don't even where to put

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them in a category so you know make the

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calls so we can pull up on them and

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follow them from there but right now the

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bipedal canines

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and UFOs and of course human mutes are

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all top-of-the-line but we've been

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getting some really strange stuff I mean

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you know through phantom to phantoms and

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monsters you know yeah we have been

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getting some strange reports I'm gonna

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come to you Danielle

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we got the question of the chatroom

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gentlemen want to know how many

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different Bigfoot species are there what

532
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do what do you think that what do you

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think is going on there do you think

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that direct or specific species or the

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characteristics are just more different

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in different areas I have no idea I like

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to approach it as a flesh-and-blood

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creature oh that's all I know I mean

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from from what I've heard from

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00:26:21,390 --> 00:26:17,950
first-hand accounts that it looks more

541
00:26:25,530 --> 00:26:21,400
human from what people have told me from

542
00:26:29,010 --> 00:26:25,540
my from my experience it smelled like I

543
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:29,020
said like an ape or a money that was the

544
00:26:34,650 --> 00:26:31,690
distinct odor I've never laid eyes on

545
00:26:36,930 --> 00:26:34,660
one unfortunately I'm hoping I mean

546
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:36,940
that's that's everyone's goal of course

547
00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:41,440
but there's a it's impossible to say how

548
00:26:47,790 --> 00:26:44,740
many species but I would say you know it

549
00:26:51,630 --> 00:26:47,800
seems to be Pacific Northwest is the big

550
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:51,640
muscular very tall very broad shouldered

551
00:26:57,780 --> 00:26:54,310
and the skunk Apes down here seems to be

552
00:27:03,840 --> 00:26:57,790
a lot more lean just from what I'm

553
00:27:08,130 --> 00:27:03,850
hearing nobody's ever found a body yeah

554
00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:08,140
so there's no way to know yeah how about

555
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:12,040
you Amy what do you think about that you

556
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,170
know I I kind of agree with Danielle I

557
00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:16,480
mean I know of different researchers who

558
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:20,590
have come up with whole you know you can

559
00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:22,450
look at if there's this species this

560
00:27:26,940 --> 00:27:24,580
species this species all these different

561
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:26,950
types and things I don't know if I buy

562
00:27:32,670 --> 00:27:30,640
that without having a body or body I'm

563
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,680
saying that they're wrong and I'm right

564
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:34,480
I just I need a little bit more than

565
00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:38,110
that but besides um you know I was gonna

566
00:27:39,870 --> 00:27:38,470
say

567
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:39,880
exactly what she said about the

568
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:42,370
differences between the sightings out in

569
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:43,809
the Pacific Northwest and then in

570
00:27:49,049 --> 00:27:46,960
Florida or even you know the Midwest but

571
00:27:52,529 --> 00:27:49,059
it's kind to me it's kind of like you go

572
00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:52,539
to Africa you have lowland gorillas you

573
00:27:56,460 --> 00:27:54,190
have mountain gorillas you have cross

574
00:28:00,480 --> 00:27:56,470
river gorillas on the board of Nigeria

575
00:28:03,630 --> 00:28:00,490
and Cameroon they all are the same you

576
00:28:05,130 --> 00:28:03,640
know animal they're just like subspecies

577
00:28:07,710 --> 00:28:05,140
I got to have a little bit of

578
00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:07,720
differences but they're the same but who

579
00:28:12,779 --> 00:28:10,740
knows I mean you have different cryptid

580
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:12,789
primates in the world you have their

581
00:28:19,950 --> 00:28:15,520
rank pen duck you have the Yeti but as

582
00:28:23,549 --> 00:28:19,960
far as Bigfoot you know as a species I

583
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:23,559
think we would have to find them you

584
00:28:29,159 --> 00:28:27,250
know you know how yeah yeah I mean

585
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:29,169
unfortunately all we can do is go by

586
00:28:33,930 --> 00:28:30,820
anecdotal evidence what people are

587
00:28:36,450 --> 00:28:33,940
actually seeing and reporting and you

588
00:28:39,810 --> 00:28:36,460
know it does seem to mean I've said this

589
00:28:43,950 --> 00:28:39,820
before but it does seem to me that the

590
00:28:45,870 --> 00:28:43,960
the creatures that are being seen out in

591
00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:45,880
the Pacific Northwest

592
00:28:54,210 --> 00:28:50,200
are in my opinion most likely indigenous

593
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:54,220
and and and they do seem to hang around

594
00:28:59,690 --> 00:28:57,610
in pods or family groups more so than

595
00:29:02,760 --> 00:28:59,700
they're doing other parts of the country

596
00:29:04,770 --> 00:29:02,770
and I'm just going 5 what I have you

597
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:04,780
know Bob the evidence has been presented

598
00:29:10,980 --> 00:29:09,010
to me but your course now you know you

599
00:29:13,529 --> 00:29:10,990
talk about the skunk Apes and their this

600
00:29:15,930 --> 00:29:13,539
is the bit shorter type like more like

601
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:15,940
an orangutan looking thing I don't know

602
00:29:23,070 --> 00:29:19,360
looking wise but the hair the long hair

603
00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:23,080
the size as you go around the Gulf Coast

604
00:29:29,850 --> 00:29:26,500
it kind of changes somewhat you get into

605
00:29:33,899 --> 00:29:29,860
some bigger creatures and then up our

606
00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:33,909
way here you know very rarely do you

607
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:36,190
hear of any more than just one being

608
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:41,200
seen at a time you know very rarely we

609
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:45,510
get family groups that are being seen

610
00:29:52,270 --> 00:29:49,890
you know why are they in a solitary I

611
00:29:54,910 --> 00:29:52,280
don't know I mean you know of course

612
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:54,920
you know you know how I think I think

613
00:29:59,950 --> 00:29:56,810
there's some supernatural aspect of

614
00:30:01,660 --> 00:29:59,960
these creatures you know III think

615
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:01,670
they're that you know especially in

616
00:30:06,940 --> 00:30:04,010
areas like in this part of the country

617
00:30:11,650 --> 00:30:06,950
in Midlantic and even into the Midwest

618
00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:11,660
there may be something to that but yeah

619
00:30:18,130 --> 00:30:14,200
I mean I don't know what you think butch

620
00:30:20,170 --> 00:30:18,140
well you know I'm still puzzled by the

621
00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:20,180
reports and we've talked about this

622
00:30:25,930 --> 00:30:23,150
before the Bigfoot reports where there's

623
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:25,940
a flashlight is seen in the wooded area

624
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:29,810
wherever the creature seen and the more

625
00:30:33,130 --> 00:30:31,370
I looked into that the more reports are

626
00:30:35,470 --> 00:30:33,140
there's a lot of reports of that where

627
00:30:38,590 --> 00:30:35,480
there's a flash of bright light and the

628
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:38,600
creature appears or is seen and then

629
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:40,130
there's a fresher problem a flash of

630
00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:41,930
bright light and then and it disappears

631
00:30:48,340 --> 00:30:45,020
now you know this athlete lend a lot of

632
00:30:52,030 --> 00:30:48,350
credence to you know interdimensional

633
00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:52,040
whatever or the other did you of the day

634
00:30:58,450 --> 00:30:56,960
with that stuff but I just find it kind

635
00:31:02,650 --> 00:30:58,460
of strange that does some of those

636
00:31:04,330 --> 00:31:02,660
reports are are really originated out in

637
00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:04,340
the northwest and then you know you have

638
00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:05,630
them in the Midwest and you have them

639
00:31:09,820 --> 00:31:08,240
here now not so much here as you do out

640
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:09,830
there in the Midwest I mean that's not

641
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:12,890
in the northwest but that to me is

642
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:13,370
strange

643
00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:14,720
I do believe they're a flesh-and-blood

644
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:19,670
creature the Bigfoot sightings here in

645
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:21,650
Pennsylvania with the exception of the

646
00:31:24,820 --> 00:31:23,600
Chestnut Ridge which you know just

647
00:31:28,780 --> 00:31:24,830
reports out there all the time

648
00:31:34,570 --> 00:31:28,790
but we have in kind of like in in my

649
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:34,580
area your area there very slim but then

650
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:36,110
when you get to north central

651
00:31:41,230 --> 00:31:38,330
Pennsylvania then it goes from the

652
00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:41,240
Bigfoot and it goes into the bipedal mmm

653
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:43,550
you know from the Allegheny far at all

654
00:31:48,370 --> 00:31:45,650
forest I mean in our like and loop I

655
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:48,380
mean we have what 60 reports now or 61

656
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:52,490
reports mm-hmm and that's a lot you know

657
00:31:57,460 --> 00:31:54,890
I mean even though it's spread out over

658
00:31:59,770 --> 00:31:57,470
four years five years and still a lot of

659
00:32:03,160 --> 00:31:59,780
reports and then that doesn't count the

660
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:03,170
background reports I mean you know like

661
00:32:08,349 --> 00:32:05,450
the report from 1868

662
00:32:09,729 --> 00:32:08,359
I mean how do you had people say well

663
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:09,739
how do you know well how do you explain

664
00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:13,039
a reporting in 1868 where a farmer

665
00:32:19,719 --> 00:32:16,070
encounters a bipedal canine that's

666
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:19,729
attacking his flock he shoots it takes

667
00:32:26,199 --> 00:32:21,950
off he goes into the town he describes

668
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,209
it to the constable constable tells it

669
00:32:29,829 --> 00:32:28,399
to the newspaper which was the Erie

670
00:32:31,779 --> 00:32:29,839
because that or something like that

671
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:31,789
hearing new error I don't know what it

672
00:32:37,889 --> 00:32:34,129
was and they print the exact same

673
00:32:42,430 --> 00:32:37,899
description that we're getting now yeah

674
00:32:44,469 --> 00:32:42,440
1864 a long way off yeah I mean these

675
00:32:46,569 --> 00:32:44,479
these creatures that were that people

676
00:32:50,289 --> 00:32:46,579
are reporting in particularly in

677
00:32:53,249 --> 00:32:50,299
Pennsylvania in and in Maryland and a

678
00:32:56,969 --> 00:32:53,259
few areas they're always described as

679
00:33:01,959 --> 00:32:56,979
huge creatures I mean nine to ten foot

680
00:33:04,930 --> 00:33:01,969
and you know that's why I started

681
00:33:06,609 --> 00:33:04,940
calling them lichens because I you know

682
00:33:08,169 --> 00:33:06,619
you when you start hearing these reports

683
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:08,179
it's not just like the underworld

684
00:33:12,669 --> 00:33:10,849
lichens when you know people talk about

685
00:33:15,879 --> 00:33:12,679
them with the size and everything these

686
00:33:19,989 --> 00:33:15,889
things are bogus and they they hope they

687
00:33:21,549 --> 00:33:19,999
stand their ground you know I never want

688
00:33:26,409 --> 00:33:21,559
to run up against one of them quite

689
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:26,419
honest with you so I don't know I don't

690
00:33:34,269 --> 00:33:30,799
know it's you know I I do believe I do

691
00:33:37,539 --> 00:33:34,279
believe a lot of these cryptids and just

692
00:33:40,869 --> 00:33:37,549
not Bigfoot but a lot of all of them may

693
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:40,879
have some some aspect to them that's

694
00:33:48,699 --> 00:33:45,049
paranormal or supernatural you know just

695
00:33:51,369 --> 00:33:48,709
like what's going on in Chicago I do

696
00:33:53,399 --> 00:33:51,379
believe that there is some supernatural

697
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:53,409
aspect of those as well

698
00:33:59,680 --> 00:33:55,609
you know what do you think what do you

699
00:34:02,469 --> 00:33:59,690
think Daniel well I try to keep a very

700
00:34:05,499 --> 00:34:02,479
very open mind with my investigations

701
00:34:07,959 --> 00:34:05,509
and I'm open to any possibilities but I

702
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:07,969
try to approach things with a skeptical

703
00:34:15,279 --> 00:34:12,169
eye as well and I try to take out any

704
00:34:17,710 --> 00:34:15,289
any outside influences that could be

705
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:17,720
throwing me off something that could be

706
00:34:23,649 --> 00:34:19,280
not

707
00:34:25,180 --> 00:34:23,659
you know just it just makes it like I

708
00:34:27,220 --> 00:34:25,190
said I try to approach it with a

709
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:27,230
flesh-and-blood and if there's other

710
00:34:31,630 --> 00:34:29,090
strange things how do you how do you

711
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:31,640
even measure something like that I don't

712
00:34:37,419 --> 00:34:33,890
know I you know I've have friends who've

713
00:34:40,510 --> 00:34:37,429
had very unusual experiences very very

714
00:34:43,570 --> 00:34:40,520
unusual and you just can't get the

715
00:34:45,940 --> 00:34:43,580
evidence you can't there's no way to you

716
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:45,950
know capture that evidence so what I try

717
00:34:50,860 --> 00:34:48,530
to do like I said I bring my DNA kit I

718
00:34:54,430 --> 00:34:50,870
bring my casting materials I try to get

719
00:34:57,490 --> 00:34:54,440
physical evidence try to get photos try

720
00:35:00,220 --> 00:34:57,500
to get EVPs or I try to get some sort of

721
00:35:02,620 --> 00:35:00,230
recording and right now that's the best

722
00:35:06,460 --> 00:35:02,630
I think we can all do and until there's

723
00:35:08,590 --> 00:35:06,470
some definitive hair and DNA and things

724
00:35:11,980 --> 00:35:08,600
like that you know that's that's the

725
00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:11,990
best we can do well I will tell you one

726
00:35:15,850 --> 00:35:13,640
thing I tell everybody that comes into

727
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:15,860
our research team you're gonna probably

728
00:35:20,110 --> 00:35:17,510
hear some of the strangest things you've

729
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:20,120
ever heard before you really are because

730
00:35:25,570 --> 00:35:23,210
I tell you I'm at the point now I'm not

731
00:35:27,220 --> 00:35:25,580
really surprised of what I get you know

732
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:27,230
but the only thing I can do is put it

733
00:35:32,020 --> 00:35:29,690
out there for our people to look it over

734
00:35:33,850 --> 00:35:32,030
and give their opinions and if they're

735
00:35:35,290 --> 00:35:33,860
close enough to go investigate and

736
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,300
that's what we've done you know we did

737
00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:37,520
we started doing this with the sightings

738
00:35:43,420 --> 00:35:40,700
in in Chicago and I had a question here

739
00:35:46,060 --> 00:35:43,430
about you O'Hara sightings well you know

740
00:35:48,250 --> 00:35:46,070
that that is an area that most of the

741
00:35:51,550 --> 00:35:48,260
sightings in Chicago had been coming

742
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:51,560
from but lately and I don't know which

743
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:54,290
its March was probably the last one we

744
00:35:59,890 --> 00:35:58,160
had maybe February so I don't know and

745
00:36:02,740 --> 00:35:59,900
it has to do with things being closed up

746
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:02,750
I think when you get the airport's going

747
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:05,810
again there may very well be some more

748
00:36:11,380 --> 00:36:08,810
sightings you know what is it one of the

749
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:11,390
one of the things lawns leads credence

750
00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:14,560
to these animals being animals creatures

751
00:36:20,110 --> 00:36:17,150
seeing flesh and blood is that you know

752
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:20,120
why would a bipedal be chewing on

753
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:23,330
roadkill oh yeah something

754
00:36:28,090 --> 00:36:24,650
interdimensional wouldn't need to eat

755
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:28,100
well that's true and we had no we have

756
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,560
had those sightings but then again we've

757
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:32,000
also had sightings where they just

758
00:36:35,530 --> 00:36:32,810
suddenly appear

759
00:36:38,590 --> 00:36:35,540
disappear or they have an aura to them

760
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:38,600
that just isn't natural all right

761
00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:40,490
yeah I mean we may be dealing with

762
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:44,270
something that's that is flesh and blood

763
00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:45,770
as well supernatural

764
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:49,390
yeah we've always considered that yeah

765
00:36:54,030 --> 00:36:52,010
that's why I you know that's why I'm

766
00:36:56,980 --> 00:36:54,040
just a firm believer and the only way

767
00:37:02,830 --> 00:36:56,990
unless we get a body which is slim to

768
00:37:05,130 --> 00:37:02,840
none is you know using thermal imaging

769
00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:05,140
and getting them on a thermal image and

770
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:09,430
then we can take it from there but it's

771
00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:11,450
digital photographs aren't going to work

772
00:37:15,730 --> 00:37:12,590
because you know everybody say you

773
00:37:18,610 --> 00:37:15,740
doctored it so thermal imaging is going

774
00:37:22,570 --> 00:37:18,620
to be the best way to go and of course

775
00:37:24,220 --> 00:37:22,580
tracks which you know I'm thinking and

776
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:24,230
getting a portable scanner that I can

777
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:27,050
scan them right on scene and I can send

778
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:28,610
them out to you I can send them to dr.

779
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:30,260
Meldrum I can send them anywhere I want

780
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,480
to send them all right plus plus I don't

781
00:37:40,690 --> 00:37:34,400
have to carry around ten Panos Stella

782
00:37:43,450 --> 00:37:40,700
stone yeah so Amy what up what are the

783
00:37:46,450 --> 00:37:43,460
hot areas in Ohio where you've been

784
00:37:50,230 --> 00:37:46,460
looking at over the years what um weird

785
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:50,240
image Aria reports them out of my report

786
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:54,050
I I do get a lot like I said but as far

787
00:37:59,770 --> 00:37:57,170
as Ohio my biggest hot spot where I

788
00:38:04,210 --> 00:37:59,780
spend a whole lot of time is down in

789
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:04,220
Columbiana County I right around Beaver

790
00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:08,000
Creek State Park area you know that's a

791
00:38:13,210 --> 00:38:10,310
it has a big history of Bigfoot

792
00:38:15,370 --> 00:38:13,220
sightings so I'm not really surprised

793
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:15,380
that I get calls from there but it's

794
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:17,570
where the Ohio howl was originally

795
00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:21,710
recorded and there's still activity

796
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:24,320
going on to the present times I just

797
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:27,770
I've had a couple reports over the last

798
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:32,530
year that have come in from people and

799
00:38:38,860 --> 00:38:35,090
you know every once in a while you still

800
00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:38,870
get one I did a Bigfoot day down for

801
00:38:44,980 --> 00:38:41,120
Beaver Creek State Park in the past

802
00:38:46,660 --> 00:38:44,990
couple years and helping them to raise

803
00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:46,670
money for their friends there

804
00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:49,430
Beavercreek and every time there's

805
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:52,310
people that show up last year last fall

806
00:38:58,060 --> 00:38:55,040
there was a gentleman who I can't say

807
00:39:02,550 --> 00:38:58,070
his name but he's a political figure

808
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:02,560
from that area I'll just saying and he

809
00:39:09,820 --> 00:39:06,560
swears that he saw one you know and

810
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:09,830
we've talked quite a few times and you

811
00:39:14,770 --> 00:39:11,810
know I don't really blame him that he

812
00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:14,780
doesn't want to come out and and say

813
00:39:26,770 --> 00:39:16,670
that he seemed bigfoot because maybe he

814
00:39:30,460 --> 00:39:26,780
won't get elected but you know that

815
00:39:32,740 --> 00:39:30,470
people won't feel like they have to hide

816
00:39:34,990 --> 00:39:32,750
that you know if you ask me as have I

817
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:35,000
ever gotten any flack for it and my

818
00:39:39,940 --> 00:39:37,040
answer is always I wouldn't care if I

819
00:39:42,580 --> 00:39:39,950
did you know I've I've experienced what

820
00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:42,590
I have experienced I don't make things

821
00:39:49,630 --> 00:39:45,160
up but I also don't take away from what

822
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:49,640
I've seen or heard you know and so I'm

823
00:39:55,330 --> 00:39:52,610
not ashamed of talking about Bigfoot you

824
00:39:57,780 --> 00:39:55,340
know I've lost friends over it my family

825
00:40:01,450 --> 00:39:57,790
I'm crazy but I don't really care

826
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:01,460
because you know I mean it's just what

827
00:40:07,330 --> 00:40:04,640
I'm interested in but yeah Columbiana

828
00:40:10,510 --> 00:40:07,340
County has a lot if you go out to a West

829
00:40:12,430 --> 00:40:10,520
Branch State Park there are a lot of

830
00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:12,440
savings there and I have some good

831
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:14,420
friends good researcher friends that

832
00:40:18,820 --> 00:40:16,970
that spend a lot of time in West Branch

833
00:40:22,750 --> 00:40:18,830
you have the Cuyahoga Valley National

834
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:22,760
Park area again a lot of rich history

835
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:26,390
there some of my favorite sightings come

836
00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:29,330
from that area at Cuyahoga Valley yeah

837
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:32,840
so that's where I frequent I do go out

838
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:37,370
to Salt Fork quite a bit and you know

839
00:40:41,710 --> 00:40:38,930
it's always fun that's that's a

840
00:40:46,810 --> 00:40:41,720
well-known area but most of my time and

841
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:46,820
and my sighting reports that I get are

842
00:40:53,050 --> 00:40:51,410
from closer to PA right and Danielle

843
00:40:56,590 --> 00:40:53,060
you've been just you done working

844
00:40:59,859 --> 00:40:56,600
sulphur at the port deal yes that's

845
00:41:04,210 --> 00:40:59,869
where I had my second encounter in fact

846
00:41:08,769 --> 00:41:04,220
after the Estero encounter when I was at

847
00:41:10,660 --> 00:41:08,779
creature weekend for 2017 I went on the

848
00:41:13,749 --> 00:41:10,670
trails by myself I got there a few days

849
00:41:15,130 --> 00:41:13,759
before the conference started and I

850
00:41:17,319 --> 00:41:15,140
wanted to go out and check out the

851
00:41:19,390 --> 00:41:17,329
trails and see if I would have any

852
00:41:22,210 --> 00:41:19,400
encounters because you know like amy was

853
00:41:24,249 --> 00:41:22,220
saying it's a very active area there's a

854
00:41:26,499 --> 00:41:24,259
lot of sightings so I thought well you

855
00:41:28,210 --> 00:41:26,509
know just take my cell phone out with me

856
00:41:31,690 --> 00:41:28,220
then didn't have any equipment or

857
00:41:34,539 --> 00:41:31,700
anything and as I walked along the trail

858
00:41:40,029 --> 00:41:34,549
that's kind of up behind the resort or

859
00:41:42,370 --> 00:41:40,039
the lodge I I came to the top rise of

860
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,380
its of the trailhead just came over the

861
00:41:45,819 --> 00:41:44,480
top of the trail and as I came over I

862
00:41:47,710 --> 00:41:45,829
was the only one out there there was

863
00:41:50,049 --> 00:41:47,720
nobody else around because it was the

864
00:41:52,569 --> 00:41:50,059
very beginning of the of the conference

865
00:41:53,769 --> 00:41:52,579
like a couple of days before and I had

866
00:41:56,170 --> 00:41:53,779
been one of the first people to get

867
00:42:00,579 --> 00:41:56,180
there and as I came over the top of the

868
00:42:03,370 --> 00:42:00,589
rise I heard two very very heavy

869
00:42:05,529 --> 00:42:03,380
footsteps and a foot drag and it was

870
00:42:07,390 --> 00:42:05,539
only between fifty and a hundred feet

871
00:42:08,979 --> 00:42:07,400
away and it sounded like something had

872
00:42:13,479 --> 00:42:08,989
ducked behind a tree and it was a very

873
00:42:16,989 --> 00:42:13,489
open area so I knew I was out there

874
00:42:20,529 --> 00:42:16,999
alone this was very deep forest leaves

875
00:42:22,509 --> 00:42:20,539
and trees and there was just nobody

876
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:22,519
around I could see clearly all around me

877
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:24,650
but it was it was very heavily heavily

878
00:42:30,579 --> 00:42:27,529
forested and there was just there were

879
00:42:32,229 --> 00:42:30,589
no people there was no voices nothing so

880
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:32,239
this thing had taken two really heavy

881
00:42:36,819 --> 00:42:34,130
footsteps and this foot dragged so I

882
00:42:38,769 --> 00:42:36,829
knew it was around me so I paused and I

883
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:38,779
thought there for a couple minutes and

884
00:42:43,269 --> 00:42:42,710
just kind of listened and then I tried a

885
00:42:52,690 --> 00:42:43,279
whistle

886
00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:52,700
didn't get a response walked another

887
00:42:58,210 --> 00:42:55,670
fifty hundred feet did a whistle and I

888
00:43:00,819 --> 00:42:58,220
got what sounded like that knocking

889
00:43:03,370 --> 00:43:00,829
noise and I was completely shocked

890
00:43:05,529 --> 00:43:03,380
completely completely shocked

891
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:05,539
did not expect it I was just out there

892
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,650
alone had no expectations and when I got

893
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:11,599
what everybody says is that knocking

894
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:12,930
sound to

895
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:15,599
it sounds like what a gorilla does when

896
00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:17,970
the gorilla beats on its chest and you

897
00:43:23,210 --> 00:43:20,940
hear that popping noise that to me was

898
00:43:26,359 --> 00:43:23,220
exactly what it sounded like that

899
00:43:28,430 --> 00:43:26,369
popping sound so if I had to guess I

900
00:43:30,140 --> 00:43:28,440
think it's something on their body what

901
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:30,150
they're doing I don't think they walk

902
00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:32,880
around with a stick and beat on trees

903
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:36,270
that's just totally my opinion but you

904
00:43:39,309 --> 00:43:37,650
know I think it's part of their body

905
00:43:41,930 --> 00:43:39,319
like like the gorillas when they're

906
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:41,940
showing their you know their territory

907
00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:43,710
or their dominance they beating they're

908
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:46,980
beating on their chest so you know

909
00:43:51,020 --> 00:43:48,930
that's just my theory but that's what I

910
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:51,030
heard and I was very close to it was

911
00:43:56,059 --> 00:43:54,000
within 50 to 100 feet was very clear

912
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,069
sound to me but it didn't sound like it

913
00:44:01,099 --> 00:43:58,319
was on a tree it sounded like it was on

914
00:44:04,670 --> 00:44:01,109
its chest or on a some sort of I don't

915
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,680
know body body part though after that I

916
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,480
tried you know I stood there for a few

917
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:08,400
more minutes and tried to interact but I

918
00:44:12,049 --> 00:44:10,710
didn't get any more responses and I was

919
00:44:13,849 --> 00:44:12,059
kind of nervous because I was out there

920
00:44:16,579 --> 00:44:13,859
alone and I wasn't sure if it was gonna

921
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:16,589
be aggressive or not so I call it yeah

922
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:18,930
yeah I was a little bit nervous and I

923
00:44:23,569 --> 00:44:20,930
had never been so close to one before

924
00:44:25,970 --> 00:44:23,579
during the daylight hours like that and

925
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:25,980
interacting with it so I I turned went

926
00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:27,690
back to the lodge because I got I got

927
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:29,369
very nervous and I didn't have any any

928
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:32,130
protection on me so but it was very

929
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:34,650
exciting that was my second encounter so

930
00:44:41,329 --> 00:44:39,089
yeah very exciting I tell you you know

931
00:44:44,510 --> 00:44:41,339
that there was one aspect of my

932
00:44:46,099 --> 00:44:44,520
encounter back in 81 that I you know

933
00:44:49,130 --> 00:44:46,109
I've heard people try to explain it to

934
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:49,140
me I heard a ticking sound this thing

935
00:44:54,260 --> 00:44:52,319
was actually making a ticking sound and

936
00:44:57,799 --> 00:44:54,270
I've always thought that it may be

937
00:44:59,839 --> 00:44:57,809
gnashing its teeth I don't know if it

938
00:45:04,640 --> 00:44:59,849
was a nervous thing it was shattering

939
00:45:11,140 --> 00:45:04,650
somehow but it did do that have y'all

940
00:45:18,430 --> 00:45:13,579
work with talking about you know how

941
00:45:22,490 --> 00:45:21,049
grind them but I'm not sure about the

942
00:45:24,620 --> 00:45:22,500
ticking sound but that's the next thing

943
00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:24,630
I'm gonna ask them about yeah because

944
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:25,710
this thing

945
00:45:32,750 --> 00:45:30,270
was he was about 30 yards from me I'd

946
00:45:33,859 --> 00:45:32,760
say between 30 and 40 yards for me and

947
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:33,869
you know we were standing there too

948
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:37,650
locked eyes on each other and I was

949
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:41,609
hearing it's clicking sound and I didn't

950
00:45:47,060 --> 00:45:43,710
know where I was coming from I you know

951
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:47,070
at the time but i-i've as a thought

952
00:45:52,609 --> 00:45:49,710
about it later on not then and talked to

953
00:45:54,849 --> 00:45:52,619
people they they had stated well it may

954
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:54,859
be actually either chattering or

955
00:46:00,589 --> 00:45:57,330
clicking his teeth together or gnashing

956
00:46:04,810 --> 00:46:00,599
his teeth so but I know that it did that

957
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:04,820
to me so that's something different

958
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:10,410
Halon can I can I say something Amy um

959
00:46:16,849 --> 00:46:12,570
when you guys were talking about you

960
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:16,859
know Bigfoot being a natural creature

961
00:46:22,910 --> 00:46:19,650
versus maybe something paranormal I just

962
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:22,920
wanted to say another thing that I do I

963
00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:25,410
co-founded with my research partner Tina

964
00:46:31,940 --> 00:46:29,369
Sam's an event called Creek foot and it

965
00:46:34,490 --> 00:46:31,950
is in Columbiana County Ohio where a lot

966
00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:34,500
of stuff goes on and we have it twice a

967
00:46:39,020 --> 00:46:37,500
year our spring one got a cancelled this

968
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:39,030
year because of the virus and we're

969
00:46:42,859 --> 00:46:40,530
crossing our fingers that we can have

970
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:42,869
the one in the fall but it's very

971
00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:45,510
inexpensive it's just like five dollars

972
00:46:50,570 --> 00:46:48,630
a night to camp so we're not making any

973
00:46:52,099 --> 00:46:50,580
money off of it or anything which we do

974
00:46:55,310 --> 00:46:52,109
try to raise some money for the

975
00:46:57,380 --> 00:46:55,320
campground itself but anyway the reason

976
00:47:00,589 --> 00:46:57,390
we started it was because there was

977
00:47:03,140 --> 00:47:00,599
always so much fighting between groups

978
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:03,150
of bigfooters are just individual people

979
00:47:09,710 --> 00:47:06,960
about know it's an animal no it's normal

980
00:47:15,410 --> 00:47:09,720
and like Danielle said then I think you

981
00:47:17,660 --> 00:47:15,420
too but they we have people who say both

982
00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:17,670
or one or the other and maybe

983
00:47:23,180 --> 00:47:19,980
everybody's right you know I always say

984
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:23,190
that if something is labeled paranormal

985
00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:25,440
maybe it's just science we haven't

986
00:47:32,839 --> 00:47:29,849
figured out yet yeah right

987
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:32,849
we wanted to create a place an event

988
00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:36,990
where from the person who is like way

989
00:47:42,109 --> 00:47:39,240
outside the box on one end

990
00:47:44,660 --> 00:47:42,119
to the other end can come there and feel

991
00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:44,670
comfortable talking about their opinions

992
00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:46,140
or things that they've experienced and

993
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:49,260
really learned from each other so I

994
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:52,710
think it's so important you know I don't

995
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:55,890
make fun of anybody however far out what

996
00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:58,170
they have seen you know what they say

997
00:48:02,990 --> 00:48:01,200
they've seen because maybe they have

998
00:48:07,339 --> 00:48:03,000
seen it and maybe we just have to figure

999
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:07,349
out how to explain it really bring a

1000
00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:11,520
butch oh I think that's great okay just

1001
00:48:20,420 --> 00:48:14,280
keep us updated on what it is I'll Drive

1002
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:20,430
my butt out there well you know this is

1003
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:22,170
something you know this is a debate

1004
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:24,000
that's been going on for a while you

1005
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:26,130
know ever since I've been involved with

1006
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:31,170
it I mean I made back in the 90s I was

1007
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,890
even preaching this and you know I I

1008
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,200
would get to fall that you know people

1009
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:39,359
would look at me and think I was crazy

1010
00:48:44,060 --> 00:48:41,839
you know there were two separate camps

1011
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:44,070
one camp was bigger than the other one

1012
00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:47,250
but I think recently in recent years

1013
00:48:52,849 --> 00:48:50,430
more and more people that get involved

1014
00:48:55,220 --> 00:48:52,859
with the Bigfoot research and it's been

1015
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:55,230
a few people that have been doing this

1016
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:58,050
for a great deal of time I've actually

1017
00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:00,240
started to be a more open-minded about

1018
00:49:11,570 --> 00:49:09,900
it you know well you know just like

1019
00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:11,580
everything else there's no experts in

1020
00:49:16,910 --> 00:49:14,520
this you know in the paranormal you know

1021
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:16,920
I I hate it when I go into a radio show

1022
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:20,400
and somebody says he's an expert at this

1023
00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:22,290
and that well there's no experts in this

1024
00:49:28,970 --> 00:49:26,670
you know but you know we're all working

1025
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:28,980
on opinions and conjecture for the most

1026
00:49:34,970 --> 00:49:31,770
part anyway yawning we can go on is what

1027
00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:34,980
the evidence is presented to us and to

1028
00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:38,220
try to make an assumption to the best of

1029
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:40,500
our ability but now I mean we just

1030
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:43,609
really don't know what a lot of this is

1031
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:46,290
we don't I always think about that movie

1032
00:49:50,780 --> 00:49:48,510
I forget when it came out several

1033
00:49:52,970 --> 00:49:50,790
several years ago that the gods must be

1034
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:52,980
crazy where though yeah

1035
00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:55,200
that's a lot of airplane and the natives

1036
00:50:00,530 --> 00:49:57,839
think oh you know this is supernatural

1037
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:00,540
and and you know it's it's always

1038
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:03,660
sometimes probably just a matter of how

1039
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:10,010
you look at something so the seat now

1040
00:50:15,740 --> 00:50:12,480
hopefully we're all gonna be able to get

1041
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:15,750
on the field soon so let's let's go

1042
00:50:22,010 --> 00:50:19,440
around the table and kind of see what

1043
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:22,020
our first priority is Daniel what do you

1044
00:50:26,810 --> 00:50:24,510
find I'm doing it as soon as you can get

1045
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,820
out and I knew you had been out a bit

1046
00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:28,800
but as soon as you can get out and do

1047
00:50:37,089 --> 00:50:33,750
more well I just got back from the Ocala

1048
00:50:39,859 --> 00:50:37,099
National Forest I did kind of a

1049
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:39,869
preliminary investigation up there to

1050
00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:42,570
see which areas I'd like to check out in

1051
00:50:48,770 --> 00:50:45,540
the future and it's a huge huge area up

1052
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:48,780
there a lot of lot a lot of wilderness a

1053
00:50:54,050 --> 00:50:51,410
lot of forest a lot of places to explore

1054
00:50:57,530 --> 00:50:54,060
as things are starting to open up here

1055
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:57,540
again in Florida I'm very lucky to be

1056
00:51:03,069 --> 00:50:59,280
here in Central Florida on next to this

1057
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,079
Green Swamp wilderness preserve it is

1058
00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:06,000
five hundred and sixty thousand acres

1059
00:51:11,390 --> 00:51:09,240
for just the Green Swamp wilderness and

1060
00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:11,400
there's a ton of places to explore I'm

1061
00:51:15,770 --> 00:51:13,950
very excited to be next to it I'm

1062
00:51:18,050 --> 00:51:15,780
literally right across the street I

1063
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:18,060
crossed my street and I'm in into the

1064
00:51:25,339 --> 00:51:20,250
green swamp and there's a ton of

1065
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:25,349
sightings there and I'd like to go back

1066
00:51:28,910 --> 00:51:27,510
up to the Ocala National Forest sometime

1067
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:28,920
they're starting to open up more trails

1068
00:51:33,859 --> 00:51:31,170
there and more hiking and more

1069
00:51:36,220 --> 00:51:33,869
investigating up there and that's gonna

1070
00:51:39,260 --> 00:51:36,230
be probably in the next few weeks I'm

1071
00:51:41,450 --> 00:51:39,270
trying to prepare myself now I'm going

1072
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:41,460
to invest in a parabolic dish and it's

1073
00:51:46,460 --> 00:51:43,650
more equipment for the for the field I

1074
00:51:49,130 --> 00:51:46,470
do have a dashcam that I use when I get

1075
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:49,140
out there and it's always running mm-hmm

1076
00:51:53,329 --> 00:51:50,910
when I'm in when I'm in a good area you

1077
00:51:55,370 --> 00:51:53,339
know and I'm investigating I've got that

1078
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:55,380
dashcam running because you never know

1079
00:51:59,420 --> 00:51:56,970
it's gonna do a road crossing in front

1080
00:52:02,410 --> 00:51:59,430
of you and just a few weeks ago someone

1081
00:52:04,430 --> 00:52:02,420
recorded a road crossing in Ocala and

1082
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:04,440
too bad they didn't have a dashcam

1083
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:06,330
running because they would have had a

1084
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:07,920
really good sighting it was a daylight

1085
00:52:13,220 --> 00:52:10,110
sighting up there so I think as people

1086
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:13,230
are moving around more through through

1087
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:14,970
that area and through these these

1088
00:52:21,110 --> 00:52:17,520
preserves they're stirring up activity

1089
00:52:22,820 --> 00:52:21,120
and these these these creatures are

1090
00:52:25,580 --> 00:52:22,830
getting stirred up and they're on the

1091
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:25,590
move but we have a good chance now for

1092
00:52:29,780 --> 00:52:27,810
the sightings to increase a little bit

1093
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:29,790
as as we're getting back into their

1094
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:32,910
territory and taking back over again so

1095
00:52:38,420 --> 00:52:36,330
you know like I said also Allegheny

1096
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:38,430
National Forest Ocala National Forest

1097
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:41,610
and the Green Swamp definitely the Green

1098
00:52:46,310 --> 00:52:43,520
Swamp I'm right at the backdoor here and

1099
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:46,320
I plan on a road trip hopefully very

1100
00:52:52,130 --> 00:52:49,200
soon to get up to the Allegheny National

1101
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,140
Forest sometime this fall and Gettysburg

1102
00:52:55,790 --> 00:52:54,240
the Gettysburg battlefield I'm very

1103
00:52:56,270 --> 00:52:55,800
excited to get up there and check that

1104
00:52:59,120 --> 00:52:56,280
out

1105
00:53:00,400 --> 00:52:59,130
so those are my future's and would you

1106
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:00,410
Amy

1107
00:53:05,690 --> 00:53:02,880
well like I said most of my stuff's been

1108
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:05,700
cancelled and I was I had plans this

1109
00:53:09,260 --> 00:53:06,960
year I was going to be going out to

1110
00:53:11,780 --> 00:53:09,270
Alaska twice I was going to be going to

1111
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:11,790
the Navajo Nation so those are out out

1112
00:53:19,610 --> 00:53:17,490
for now and that's okay I today was my

1113
00:53:24,110 --> 00:53:19,620
last day school I'm heading out tomorrow

1114
00:53:26,060 --> 00:53:24,120
to a few places in PA and like I said I

1115
00:53:29,420 --> 00:53:26,070
have my maps open trying to plan

1116
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:29,430
something but I I'm really excited to

1117
00:53:34,820 --> 00:53:32,010
spend a little bit more time in Ohio it

1118
00:53:39,260 --> 00:53:34,830
hasn't I haven't had a chunk of time

1119
00:53:42,550 --> 00:53:39,270
since 2016 that summer I headed out and

1120
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:42,560
I solo camped in Ohio West Virginia

1121
00:53:48,830 --> 00:53:46,530
Pennsylvania Michigan in New York State

1122
00:53:51,050 --> 00:53:48,840
and it was awesome it's been about a

1123
00:53:55,460 --> 00:53:51,060
month or so just going around and and

1124
00:53:58,010 --> 00:53:55,470
I'm kind of thinking you know I have

1125
00:54:00,170 --> 00:53:58,020
this free time that I wasn't expecting

1126
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,180
I'm gonna check out some citing areas

1127
00:54:07,340 --> 00:54:01,920
and one of the first places I'm gonna go

1128
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:07,350
is down to South East Ohio near not in

1129
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:10,410
Wayne National Forest but in it but over

1130
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:13,050
this quarantine break I had a call from

1131
00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:16,730
a gentleman who said that he saw a green

1132
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:19,300
Bigfoot and I know we talked about that

1133
00:54:24,330 --> 00:54:22,510
but on our chat yeah you know it could

1134
00:54:27,780 --> 00:54:24,340
be it could be some kind of algae or

1135
00:54:31,620 --> 00:54:27,790
moss like like sloths can get so I am

1136
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:31,630
gonna gonna do go out there and talk to

1137
00:54:40,620 --> 00:54:38,650
him well you know well that's well you

1138
00:54:42,060 --> 00:54:40,630
know III look forward to hearing which

1139
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:42,070
y'all finder

1140
00:54:48,420 --> 00:54:44,530
would you come up and view research you

1141
00:54:50,460 --> 00:54:48,430
know you're you're both a great addition

1142
00:54:52,290 --> 00:54:50,470
to the team and we look forward to

1143
00:54:57,090 --> 00:54:52,300
hearing what you've got to say about

1144
00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:57,100
your ventures and also I you know we

1145
00:55:02,730 --> 00:54:58,930
think we've got a question in in the

1146
00:55:05,310 --> 00:55:02,740
chat I want to mention about descripted

1147
00:55:08,550 --> 00:55:05,320
TV shows now you know it's interesting

1148
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:08,560
and they're right there have been more

1149
00:55:15,450 --> 00:55:12,730
cryptid TV shows in recent years though

1150
00:55:18,810 --> 00:55:15,460
there had been a few that were that

1151
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:18,820
started off at least 10 years ago but it

1152
00:55:24,780 --> 00:55:21,730
does seem to be more of it now does

1153
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:24,790
anybody want to interject and give their

1154
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:27,520
opinion as to why this is becoming more

1155
00:55:44,810 --> 00:55:35,110
popular now I was expecting this

1156
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:44,820
violence yeah look it's entertainment

1157
00:55:48,690 --> 00:55:47,110
especially for people that you know

1158
00:55:51,060 --> 00:55:48,700
aren't researchers don't get out in the

1159
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:51,070
field don't you know it's interesting to

1160
00:55:55,020 --> 00:55:53,050
them and and especially during this

1161
00:55:56,490 --> 00:55:55,030
period of lockup time where you know

1162
00:55:58,140 --> 00:55:56,500
people aren't doing anything I mean hell

1163
00:56:04,710 --> 00:55:58,150
I get excited if I get to go to Home

1164
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:04,720
Depot so it's you know all the

1165
00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:06,610
researchers that I keep in touch with

1166
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:08,830
and the 14 team and stuff well I mean

1167
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:10,690
we're all ready to go we're ready to go

1168
00:56:14,130 --> 00:56:12,490
you know the equipment's ready the

1169
00:56:15,870 --> 00:56:14,140
vehicles are ready the people are ready

1170
00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:15,880
and you know like get this over with

1171
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:18,070
let's get out there I don't want to

1172
00:56:23,340 --> 00:56:19,510
watch anything on the show I want to go

1173
00:56:26,490 --> 00:56:23,350
out there and do it yeah I guess you all

1174
00:56:31,170 --> 00:56:26,500
I guess Daniel and Amy kind of feels the

1175
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:31,180
same way remember it's entertainment and

1176
00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:32,930
you know I

1177
00:56:37,150 --> 00:56:35,089
I don't I like to watch some of them

1178
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:37,160
myself you know I think they're fun you

1179
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:40,400
can learn things from them and I think

1180
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:44,089
that personally I think that a lot of

1181
00:56:47,859 --> 00:56:46,130
people watch them because they may have

1182
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:47,869
had some kind of experience and they

1183
00:56:56,620 --> 00:56:54,609
you talk to people and they say yeah I

1184
00:57:00,120 --> 00:56:56,630
had this happen or I had that happen so

1185
00:57:04,540 --> 00:57:00,130
they they feel like a bond there I think

1186
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:04,550
you know I think I think to get away

1187
00:57:10,420 --> 00:57:08,240
they can't they have kind of given

1188
00:57:15,819 --> 00:57:10,430
people a better reason to come forward

1189
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:15,829
or something they've seen but there

1190
00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:17,930
there's a lot of information that's

1191
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:21,200
being put out on these shows that's just

1192
00:57:26,859 --> 00:57:24,890
really unrealistic be honestly I mean

1193
00:57:29,319 --> 00:57:26,869
you know of course when you watch a

1194
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:29,329
Bigfoot show and it seemed like they're

1195
00:57:33,970 --> 00:57:31,520
getting their hearing this seeing that

1196
00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:33,980
every time they're out there well you

1197
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:38,809
know it just doesn't work that way you

1198
00:57:43,870 --> 00:57:42,079
can go out there 50 times and not hear a

1199
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:43,880
thing and then the one time you'll maybe

1200
00:57:50,770 --> 00:57:45,770
get you'll hear something or see

1201
00:57:52,780 --> 00:57:50,780
something so yeah that mean like you

1202
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:52,790
said the entertainment value is what's

1203
00:57:56,380 --> 00:57:54,890
expressed more than anything else and

1204
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:56,390
believe me I've been involved with these

1205
00:58:04,960 --> 00:57:59,359
productions personally over the years

1206
00:58:07,420 --> 00:58:04,970
and it's more about making people feel

1207
00:58:09,549 --> 00:58:07,430
good than to actually presenting the

1208
00:58:13,390 --> 00:58:09,559
actual evidence of presenting the actual

1209
00:58:17,230 --> 00:58:13,400
wait things do happen but you know they

1210
00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:17,240
do come asking a lot and and you guys

1211
00:58:22,089 --> 00:58:19,849
are new to the team so we're gonna get

1212
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:22,099
offers we have gotten offers for years

1213
00:58:29,770 --> 00:58:26,210
now and you know maybe something will

1214
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:29,780
pan out maybe we can go out there and do

1215
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:33,290
something to where we can kind of give

1216
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:36,530
our own opinion but it's always up to

1217
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:38,329
the production company on what gets put

1218
00:58:44,110 --> 00:58:41,119
out so you know that's that's

1219
00:58:47,570 --> 00:58:44,120
disadvantage to it

1220
00:58:49,970 --> 00:58:47,580
so you know I want to thank you three

1221
00:58:53,420 --> 00:58:49,980
for coming all with me tonight we're

1222
00:58:56,540 --> 00:58:53,430
definitely going to do this again I like

1223
00:58:58,700 --> 00:58:56,550
to kind of stretch it out and get other

1224
00:59:02,960 --> 00:58:58,710
people on the team involved with doing

1225
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:02,970
these updates but I do appreciate you

1226
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:04,290
coming on with me tonight

1227
00:59:10,790 --> 00:59:07,650
and you all have a good weekend and we

1228
00:59:13,100 --> 00:59:10,800
will be talking soon well thank you

1229
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:13,110
yeah I'm honored to be on the team I'm

1230
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:15,690
excited for a really fun future with you

1231
00:59:20,330 --> 00:59:18,810
guys and investigating things and I just

1232
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:20,340
want to say a quick thank you to

1233
00:59:25,220 --> 00:59:22,290
everyone who has extended their hand to

1234
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:25,230
me over the last three four years who

1235
00:59:30,140 --> 00:59:27,690
have given me some great advice and

1236
00:59:32,420 --> 00:59:30,150
their friendship and really taken me

1237
00:59:34,820 --> 00:59:32,430
under their wing and and really helped

1238
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:34,830
me out it means everything to me and I'm

1239
00:59:40,310 --> 00:59:37,010
very very grateful for all of that and

1240
00:59:48,260 --> 00:59:40,320
just thank you guys I I love you all

1241
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:48,270
thank you okay guys all right look I'm

1242
00:59:55,970 --> 00:59:53,040
just glad you guys are with us yeah we

1243
00:59:58,250 --> 00:59:55,980
did it's just been being butch and maybe

1244
01:00:05,240 --> 00:59:58,260
Shawn that wouldn't work it out we

1245
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:05,250
needed more people you have a good

1246
01:00:13,130 --> 01:00:09,690
weekend and we'll be talking soon good

1247
01:00:14,930 --> 01:00:13,140
night good night now if you have an

1248
01:00:16,370 --> 01:00:14,940
unexplained encounter sighting feel free

1249
01:00:18,290 --> 01:00:16,380
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1250
01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:18,300
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1251
01:00:22,730 --> 01:00:19,710
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1253
01:00:28,450 --> 01:00:25,170
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1254
01:00:30,980 --> 01:00:28,460
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1255
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1256
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1257
01:00:39,830 --> 01:00:37,080
now one again thank butch with Kowski

1258
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:39,840
amy beyou and danielle o'clair for

1259
01:00:44,090 --> 01:00:41,850
joining me this evening and i want to

1260
01:00:45,740 --> 01:00:44,100
thank you for listening to the show good

1261
01:00:55,290 --> 01:00:45,750
night stay healthy and have a safe

1262
01:00:55,300 --> 01:01:07,930
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